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Topic: CONCURRENT TUNNELING IN VPNS [New Topic]  [New Reply]
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ranjeet_barve
Member since:
2002-03-26 00:30:09
  posted: 2002-03-26 00:45:26
Concurrent Tunneling in VPNs
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"VPN allows up to 10,000 concurrent tunnels."
Above is a common phrase found in many technical manuals of networking companies.
Please could you define the meaning of a "Concurrent Tunnel"? What does it mean when one opens 10,000 Concurrent Tunnels? Is one referring to opening 10,000 parallel Tunnels or 10,000 simultaneous connections?
Please could you specify a standard metric followed by companies in calculating the number of concurrent tunnels supported.
( The above question is with respect to IPsec based VPN Tunnels )

Please help me find an answer.
phildom
Member since:
2001-11-20 10:00:00
  posted: 2002-03-26 01:10:53
Concurrent Tunneling in VPNs
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10,000 Concurrent VPN tunnels mean that 10,000 users can theoretically access the network via the VPN simultaneously.
i.e. Joe, Randy, Sue, Martha...employee10,000 can all access the network at the same time.

Does this clarify?

ranjeet_barve
Member since:
2002-03-26 00:30:09
  posted: 2002-03-26 02:39:49
Re: Concurrent Tunneling in VPNs
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Thanx Phildom,

Please could you specify a standard metric followed by companies in calculating the number of concurrent tunnels supported.
i.e what are the standard parameters which decide the number of Concurrent Tunnels a VPN Supports?.
How does a manufacturer derive a conclusion that his VPN product supports 10,000 tunnels?

Lets suppose that our IPsec performance is 250MBit/s? Does this help in deriving the number of Concurrent Tunnels supported.

Thanx,< br>Ranjeet.
phildom
Member since:
2001-11-20 10:00:00
  posted: 2002-03-26 17:52:33
Concurrent tunneling in VPNs
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I believe that the bottleneck will first occur in bandwidth rather than in the number of concurrent tunnels. As far as I know, there is no reason other than bandwidth and processing power of the VPN server to restrict the number of concurrent VPN tunnels. You'll notice if you use a Linux or OpenBSD "home made" VPN solution, there are no specified restrictions when it comes to concurrent VPN tunnels. However, your network and VPN concentrator will quickly get bogged down if you have 100 people or 1000 people trying to initiate VPN tunnels and your only connection is a 1.5mbit dsl line.
Does this make sense?

I've also asked some colleagues for their opinion so when I get a response, I'll get back to you.

cheers,
Ph il
ranjeet_barve
Member since:
2002-03-26 00:30:09
  posted: 2002-03-31 22:07:45
Re:Concurrent Tunneling in VPNs
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Thanx Phil for the reply,

I agree with you that the bandwidth available will always be a bottleneck when it comes to supporting a specified number of concurrent tunnels.
At present,with the information that I have gathered, I don't think there is any standard methodology followed by companies in finding out the ideal number of Concurrent Tunnels supported (assuming that Bandwidth is not the limiting factor). I think most of the companies talk about the ideal case where they assume infinite bandwidth.

This is what i found on a site.

"Concurrent VPN Tunnels specifications refer to the total number VPN tunnels that can be maintained between a single VPN gateway and peer VPN devices. Peer devices may include either remote access VPN clients or VPN gateways. This number is dependent upon the amount of memory available in the VPN appliance or server. A VPN-1/FireWall-1 system with 512 MB of memory can support up to 20,000 tunnels. Keep in mind, however, that since each tunnel consumes a certain amount of bandwidth, throughput limits may be reached before concurrent VPN tunnel limits. For example, if each tunnel consumes an average of 10 Kbps, 10,000 tunnels require 100 Mbps of network bandwidth."

I suppose here they are referring to the number of bi-directional SAs that can be stored in the 512Mb of memory to be the limiting factor for the # of Concurrent Tunnels.

Please let me know your opinion??

Regards,
Ranjeet.
 
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